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and so it's very easy for karl rove to saunter in and say oh, well, we'll stop this. you can't fight something with nothing. he did not back a single winning candidate last year. so what is going to happen? that is the republican party. that's why they win primaries, and the republican party has a more serious problem, which is that's 30% of the country that holds those views, maybe more or less. they can win primaries. they can never win national elections. but what is this republican establishment that rove represents? it's money people. but where are the voters within the republican party. it's not just tea party, it's the real base of the republican party whether they call themselves tea partiers or not. this is what they want. >> i was struck by how unified the reaction against rove was on the right. i mean, all of the influential -- all of the right-wing blogs that are influential enough that a liberal like me knows to go read them. >> right. >> all of them unified with being just disgusted with karl rove for having suggested this. it seems as though this is a v
and so it's very easy for karl rove to saunter in and say oh, well, we'll stop this. you can't fight something with nothing. he did not back a single winning candidate last year. so what is going to happen? that is the republican party. that's why they win primaries, and the republican party has a more serious problem, which is that's 30% of the country that holds those views, maybe more or less. they can win primaries. they can never win national elections. but what is this republican...
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rove and the republican national committee that turned out voters at the democrats in places like ohio didn't even know were there. so, you know, and with barack obama at the evidence the ticket, they were able to do that this time around. with him not there anymore, it will depend a lot on who the candidate is as to whether they're able to replicate anything like that strong. >> bill: this influences everybody's lives, all our lives if the president is indeed taking on a more arrogant posture in the sense that he is going to move as far as left as he wants to move because he says why not? i'm not going to get these people anyway. we don't need them anymore. california going to be mostly hispanic. hispanics will be in the majority. birth rate among white americans very low whereas hispanic americans much higher. we don't need those people. i'm not even going to represent them. i don't care about them. i'm going to create a nanny state and entitlement society and go right to my base. give them what they want and everybody else can go you know what. >> well, it's certainly the case with
rove and the republican national committee that turned out voters at the democrats in places like ohio didn't even know were there. so, you know, and with barack obama at the evidence the ticket, they were able to do that this time around. with him not there anymore, it will depend a lot on who the candidate is as to whether they're able to replicate anything like that strong. >> bill: this influences everybody's lives, all our lives if the president is indeed taking on a more arrogant...
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look, karl rove is -- this is sort of classic karl rove where on the face of it, it looks like what he's doing is, as you suggest, you know, very sort of self-beneficial. he ends up being someone who benefits from this, but at the same time it's something, as i said before, it's something that the republican party needs to do. the republican party cannot afford to have steve israel run for senate and lose -- >> you mean steve king? >> say that again? i'm sorry, steve king. >> steve israel, democrat -- >> yes. >> karl rove likes to pretend it was todd akin and richard mourdock who lost the election but wasn't it george w. bush, the monster to karl rove's dr. frankenstein who lost the election for republicans? >> well, he certainly did his part. i would -- as did karl rove. >> exactly. >> wouldn't you love to be in the meetings with donors when the donor says tell us what you've been up to recently, karl? what races have you won? that's going ton an interesting meeting. more importantly, one of the things i find so interesting, there's an element of chickens coming home to roost because wh
look, karl rove is -- this is sort of classic karl rove where on the face of it, it looks like what he's doing is, as you suggest, you know, very sort of self-beneficial. he ends up being someone who benefits from this, but at the same time it's something, as i said before, it's something that the republican party needs to do. the republican party cannot afford to have steve israel run for senate and lose -- >> you mean steve king? >> say that again? i'm sorry, steve king. >>...
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just want to -- a quick word i mention to susan page about karl rove forming this new pac. it's called the conservative victory fund. and last year, karl rove had such a disastrous record that he spent $400 million lost the presidency they lost ten out of 12 senate races. they lost four out of nine house races. all of that money spent against democrats so now he's going to form yet another pac and spend this money in the republican primaries against republicans that he doesn't like, particularly tea party members he doesn't like. i love satisfying republicans eat each other alive. but i think this does pose a couple of important questions. number one after his record of blowing $400 million last year, why would anybody trust karl rove with a dime? and two, i want to know -- i want to know, damn it, how much money is karl rove making off these super pacs. you know he's not working for nothing. i'll get he's getting 10%. i'll bet he got $40 million out of that super pac last year. now he wants even more. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." armed with the facts, and t
just want to -- a quick word i mention to susan page about karl rove forming this new pac. it's called the conservative victory fund. and last year, karl rove had such a disastrous record that he spent $400 million lost the presidency they lost ten out of 12 senate races. they lost four out of nine house races. all of that money spent against democrats so now he's going to form yet another pac and spend this money in the republican primaries against republicans that he doesn't like,...
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details on a "the new york times" report that karl rove plans to make sure candidates don't become the nominees in key senate races. nbc's first read team says it is going to be ugly. >>> plus, police say they're doing, quote, everything humanly possible to end the hostage standoff in alabama that's now in the seventh day. neighbors are now even collecting birthday cards for the little boy being held in that underground bunker. he turns 6 this week. former negotiator clint van zant will join me. >>> first, officials rule out one cause of the super bowl blackout. the sudden power outage in the game's second half not caused by electrical work done in december. that was one of the theories. power company and the company that manages the super dome says it originated where a power line meets the dome's electrical system. ravens coach john harbaugh said he was stunned but proud of the team's handling of the delay. >> it was just crazy. we haven't seen that one before. it was new. changed the complexion. they did a great job and changed momentum. they swung and wasn't the lights or the power
details on a "the new york times" report that karl rove plans to make sure candidates don't become the nominees in key senate races. nbc's first read team says it is going to be ugly. >>> plus, police say they're doing, quote, everything humanly possible to end the hostage standoff in alabama that's now in the seventh day. neighbors are now even collecting birthday cards for the little boy being held in that underground bunker. he turns 6 this week. former negotiator clint...
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>> you're talking about karl rove? >> i'm talking about karl rove. >> that is, it seems to me, john heilemann, a good question to ask. you go to karl rove, a guy that just got pasted in this last election. i know karl, i like karl. >> part of the past 20 years. >> he got pasted, and also some conservatives brought up, he was part of the bush administration that people like peg -- i'll say it peggy noonan, myself, others think destroyed the conservative movement by spending us into record debt. >> and you're seeing, you know, the immediate reaction among some parts of the conservative movement, parts of the tea party, more populist part of the party, attacking the group, saying that he's the karl rove and his allies, they have a bad record to run on and that they're deviating from the principles of true conservatism and they want to back sellouts. i think the main thing you're going to see over the course of this next cycle is a further deepening of the schism between the two kind of pieces of the republican party. the
>> you're talking about karl rove? >> i'm talking about karl rove. >> that is, it seems to me, john heilemann, a good question to ask. you go to karl rove, a guy that just got pasted in this last election. i know karl, i like karl. >> part of the past 20 years. >> he got pasted, and also some conservatives brought up, he was part of the bush administration that people like peg -- i'll say it peggy noonan, myself, others think destroyed the conservative movement by...
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gop donors are turning to karl rove to help weed out far right candidates in upcoming races. really? isn't he the guy who blew $300 million in the last election? whose super pac had a 1% success rate? yeah, that guy. and, boy is the tea party upset. freedom works slammed rove's group saying the empire is striking back. calling him orwellian. it's full-on gop warfare. it's gop civil war. joining me now is michael steele and dana millbank. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. >> good to see you, rev. >> michael, karl rove to save the party from the tea party, do you buy it? >> no, i don't. and i don't think many of the not just tea parties, but grass roots conservatives will. instead of taking those dollars out of the states and hunkering them down here in a newly created super pac in washington, how about investing in the state party organizations around the country to help them build the farm team that is going to be required to win in the future. this is not an overnight success deal, reverend. you cannot come from the s shellacking of '06 and '12 and throw dollars
gop donors are turning to karl rove to help weed out far right candidates in upcoming races. really? isn't he the guy who blew $300 million in the last election? whose super pac had a 1% success rate? yeah, that guy. and, boy is the tea party upset. freedom works slammed rove's group saying the empire is striking back. calling him orwellian. it's full-on gop warfare. it's gop civil war. joining me now is michael steele and dana millbank. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. >>...
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. >>> plus the pack men, karl rove's new plan to pour cold water on the tea party and keep senate seats in the republican column. today's politics planner, as you can see, former president clinton will be speaking at ed koch's funeral, president obama is off to minneapolis and chris christie hits letterman. [ male announcer ] let's say you pay your guy around 2% to manage your money. that's not much, you think. except it's 2% every year. go to e-trade and find out how much our advice and guidance costs. spoiler alert: it's low. it's guidance on your terms, not ours. e-trade. less for us. more for you. more "likes." more tweets. so, beginning today, my son brock and his whole team will be our new senior social media strategists. any questions? since we make radiator valves wouldn't it be better if we just let fedex help us to expand to new markets? hmm gotta admit that's better than a few "likes." i don't have the door code. who's that? he won a contest online to be ceo for the day. how am i supposed to run a business here without an office?! [ male announcer ] fast, reliable deliveries
. >>> plus the pack men, karl rove's new plan to pour cold water on the tea party and keep senate seats in the republican column. today's politics planner, as you can see, former president clinton will be speaking at ed koch's funeral, president obama is off to minneapolis and chris christie hits letterman. [ male announcer ] let's say you pay your guy around 2% to manage your money. that's not much, you think. except it's 2% every year. go to e-trade and find out how much our advice...
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was exposed for the -- always so all powerful, karl rove. scary. he is a sad pathetic, little wrong man on election flight sputtering. anyway, this is what caused all of the trouble. fight, fight fight. >> love this. >> stephanie: shoving each other into the lockers. leaders of the tea party fuming about plans by some republican strategists including karl rove to raise money to help quote-unquote electable candidates win primary races. leaders of the tea party and other republican groups that oppose abortion and gay rights responded by calling rove a fake conservative who had declared war on the tea party. fight, fight fight fight! seriously, kids, don't fight. you're both equally wrong about everything. it doesn't really matter how this comes out. >> stephanie: first public glimpse inside a power struggle inside the republican party. bloomberg writes in wake of the epic november loss, the riff could lead to more costly republican primaries. fight, fight, fight! brent boseel says their idea of the most electable presidential candidate was mi
was exposed for the -- always so all powerful, karl rove. scary. he is a sad pathetic, little wrong man on election flight sputtering. anyway, this is what caused all of the trouble. fight, fight fight. >> love this. >> stephanie: shoving each other into the lockers. leaders of the tea party fuming about plans by some republican strategists including karl rove to raise money to help quote-unquote electable candidates win primary races. leaders of the tea party and other republican...
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. >>> red rover, karl rove's new push to score some winners is getting pushback from powerful conservative groups. this morning, a debate between one of rove's point men and one of his top critics. >>> and who do you know? and do you know who this guy is? you should. he just might be the most powerful person in israeli politics not named netanyahu right now. find out what an unexpected power surge from the center could mean for u.s. hopes for mideast peace. >>> good morning from washington. it's tuesday, february 5th, 2013. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. let's get to my first reads. president obama's state of the union address is just a week from today and the president is flooding the zone. worried the federal budget could dominate and limit his agenda this year. he's pushing other issues. he's talking guns one day, immigration the next. making sure he's not drawn into a standoff with republicans over the economy which would quickly come to define his second term. today, he makes the case on immigration to business leaders, including ceos like steve case and monica lozano fr
. >>> red rover, karl rove's new push to score some winners is getting pushback from powerful conservative groups. this morning, a debate between one of rove's point men and one of his top critics. >>> and who do you know? and do you know who this guy is? you should. he just might be the most powerful person in israeli politics not named netanyahu right now. find out what an unexpected power surge from the center could mean for u.s. hopes for mideast peace. >>> good...
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karl rove joins us. nice to see you, karl. >> thanksers greta. >> greta: the jury is still not back so we know how everybody feels about it but the change in rule does leave out the private business owners who for maybe strong religious conviction don't want to pay for contraception. is this change going to be a good idea for everybody or put the lid on the problems? >> well, we need to see the exact wording of the rule and see its full implications. i think this may be a strategic retreat on the part of the administration. if you are a catholic university like ava maria university which filed suit not to be required as an explicitly roman catholic institution to violate its precipes you were liking to win the lawsuit. if you were the archdiocese or a church or a church-related institution you had probably a pretty good first amendment chance of winning that. the administration may have decided having won the point for political value in the campaign now is the time to retreat before it lost it in court.
karl rove joins us. nice to see you, karl. >> thanksers greta. >> greta: the jury is still not back so we know how everybody feels about it but the change in rule does leave out the private business owners who for maybe strong religious conviction don't want to pay for contraception. is this change going to be a good idea for everybody or put the lid on the problems? >> well, we need to see the exact wording of the rule and see its full implications. i think this may be a...
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one person who liked cantor's speech was karl rove. he promoted it on twitter as it was all unfolding. bob, is rove trying to become the architect of the party again? and of course he is going at it on the right-wingers as well. >> well, he doesn't have much choice, you know. he set up this new effort in american crossroads to try to influence gop primaries. and i'm not in the business of defending karl rove. but if i could take a leaf from gene robinson's book and say this is a kind of step that makes sense if you want to elect republicans. but the problem is with the dominance of the tea party types, the religious right, and a lot of these states you're going to see more republican nominees who are going to lose winnable races. rove wants to change that, although he is the one who contributed to creating it at almost every level over a long period of years. >> eugene robinson, bob shrum, great to have you on the program tonight. thank you so much for joining us. >>> remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the scr
one person who liked cantor's speech was karl rove. he promoted it on twitter as it was all unfolding. bob, is rove trying to become the architect of the party again? and of course he is going at it on the right-wingers as well. >> well, he doesn't have much choice, you know. he set up this new effort in american crossroads to try to influence gop primaries. and i'm not in the business of defending karl rove. but if i could take a leaf from gene robinson's book and say this is a kind of...
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plus, details on a "the new york times" that says karl rove is taking on the tea party. an we're getting new information about the investigation in to the blackout during the super bowl. what happened? and what they're looking at this hour. come on. nowadays, lots of people go by themselves. no they don't. yeah... hey son. have fun tonight. ♪ prom! [ laughs ] ♪ ♪ ain't nothin to me ♪ back against the wall ♪ ain't nothin to me ♪ keep you down and make you crawl ♪ ♪ ain't nothin to me ♪ cut you down when you feel tall ♪ ♪ ain't nothin to me ♪ ain't nothin to me ♪ ain't nothin to me [ crowd murmurs ] [ cheering ] hey! ♪ ain't nothin to me ♪ ain't nothin to me ♪ [ howls ] ♪ that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they help save you up to thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call today to request a free decision
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so they kept karl rove. >> yes. karl -- see they know that karl rove is going to be a valuables a set in 2014 2016 even if he got it wrong this time around -- >> bill: even if he attacked his own network. >> yes, he is still a relevant political player. sarah palin is not a relevant political player and karl rove is. >> bill: he also know that sarah palin -- when she made the decision that she was not going to run for president in 2012 she did not announce it on fox news. >> yeah. >> bill: why did they hire dennis casinich. >> that's a great question. obviously fox news is conservative, but the number one goal is programming, and roger ailes wants to have people on there to yell at each other. they probably made him an offer that was really good and now they have somebody on there that they can yell at. >> bill: i wonder if they'll give him the opportunity to express his opinions. >> yeah. >> bill: we saw each other last night at the launch of the new, new republic. i don't know how long the new republic has been ar
so they kept karl rove. >> yes. karl -- see they know that karl rove is going to be a valuables a set in 2014 2016 even if he got it wrong this time around -- >> bill: even if he attacked his own network. >> yes, he is still a relevant political player. sarah palin is not a relevant political player and karl rove is. >> bill: he also know that sarah palin -- when she made the decision that she was not going to run for president in 2012 she did not announce it on fox...
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rove is trying to do. >> the fringiness. the fringies being upset by the establishment. really quick here, lori montgomery. boston globe reporting there might be a romney that gets in this senate race. do you think that's realistic or silliness? >> you know, i can't imagine that the romneys -- >> your tone says it all. >> are up for another one of these. >> who do you have, ravens-49ers? >> i'm an eagles fan, so once they're not in contention, i stop paying attention. i got to go with the ravens, see ray lewis finish on top. >> lori? >> if playoff joe flacco shows up, i think the ravens win. if regular season joe flacco shows up, not so much. >> thanks to both of you. just over to hours from kickoff down in the big easy and also two hours from the biggest of the year in advertising as well. we'll give you a preview of the ads to watch for in between the plays. first, though, a teenage girl just back from her trip to washington to perform with president obama's inauguration gunned down in chicago. a senseless tragedy that put
rove is trying to do. >> the fringiness. the fringies being upset by the establishment. really quick here, lori montgomery. boston globe reporting there might be a romney that gets in this senate race. do you think that's realistic or silliness? >> you know, i can't imagine that the romneys -- >> your tone says it all. >> are up for another one of these. >> who do you have, ravens-49ers? >> i'm an eagles fan, so once they're not in contention, i stop paying...
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and two, i want to know how much money is karl rove himself making off of these pacs? you know he doesn't work for nothing. i'll bet he gets 10% of every dollar he raises. come on, karl! tell us the truth. how much money are you pocketing off of these super pacs? folks, go out and have a great day. we'll see you right back here again tomorrow. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: who is our first caller today? oh, she gets a sherry's berries gift card -- oh no you are not a caller. you are here every day. good morning, jacki schechner. >> i want a sherry's berries gift card. >> stephanie: hey, john kasick just undouched himself. he is going to accept the obama medicare medicaid expansion. >> amazing. i love when governors and lawmakers do things that actually benefit the citizens of they state. >> stephanie: right. the only reason not to do it jacki is you are a douche. >> pretty much. and you want to be like rick scott. >> stephanie: it's a technical term, douche. here she is jacki schechner health care geek of the current news center. >> good morning, everybody, presi
and two, i want to know how much money is karl rove himself making off of these pacs? you know he doesn't work for nothing. i'll bet he gets 10% of every dollar he raises. come on, karl! tell us the truth. how much money are you pocketing off of these super pacs? folks, go out and have a great day. we'll see you right back here again tomorrow. [♪ theme music ♪] >> stephanie: who is our first caller today? oh, she gets a sherry's berries gift card -- oh no you are not a caller. you are...
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karl rove we can convince some -- i would hope that we can convince some of of these companies -- i am not talking about the first amendment -- to stop putting out the violent video games and finally, we need to enforce the reasonable gun laws on but books that the nra supports. >> can i take that as a yes? >> yes, that is a yes. we have 11,000 policemen -- >> can i invite and urge you to advocate the responsible gun owners and i thank them for being responsible gun owners, also joined in the sense of promise? -- also join in the sandy hook promise? >> there is not a law-abiding firearms owner across the united states that was not torn to pieces by what happened in sandy ". -- in sandy hook. they just don't believe their constitutional right to own a firearm and the fact they can protect their family with a firearm results and the problem. -- in the problem. >> you and i agree there should be more prosecution of illegal gun possession and illegal gun ownership. >> i have been on this capitol hill for 20 some years agree to that and nobody does it and that's the problem. i will make you
karl rove we can convince some -- i would hope that we can convince some of of these companies -- i am not talking about the first amendment -- to stop putting out the violent video games and finally, we need to enforce the reasonable gun laws on but books that the nra supports. >> can i take that as a yes? >> yes, that is a yes. we have 11,000 policemen -- >> can i invite and urge you to advocate the responsible gun owners and i thank them for being responsible gun owners,...
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rove said they were then going to move on comprehensive immigration reform and they were going to cement hispanics, or a large chunk of that hispanics, as sort of what rove called the republican majority. it was not just john mccain, it was the republican primary in 2008. you remember john mccain came into that, the guy who would finish second to bush in 2000. this was going to be john mccain's nomination in 2008. and his campaign practically imploded. he linked the immigration reform bill to ted kennedy. it became totally off limits in republican primaries. and yes, you are now seeing a return to normalcy, a guy like john mccain, and graham, they still come out supporting it. i think it is an open question, when you look at the republican safe house districts is it still safe for these people to come out and say they support comprehensive reform? i still think it is an open question. >> victoria, take us through the elements of the plan, the democrats like to say tough but fair, they are suspected of being too soft on this. but it does include a path to citizenship and that phrase, "pat
rove said they were then going to move on comprehensive immigration reform and they were going to cement hispanics, or a large chunk of that hispanics, as sort of what rove called the republican majority. it was not just john mccain, it was the republican primary in 2008. you remember john mccain came into that, the guy who would finish second to bush in 2000. this was going to be john mccain's nomination in 2008. and his campaign practically imploded. he linked the immigration reform bill to...
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. >> eric cantor is not alone, for sure, jonathan, your old boss, or i guess your boss, karl rove, as how often talked about trying to fix the image and he's angered a lot of republicans, especially far right conservatives by talking about his plans to go against the most extreme in the primary. mark levin, the talk show host, says conservatives are being stabbed in the back. erick erickson, the editor of redstate.com says the efforts will, quote, crush conservatives, destroy the tea party, and put a bunch of squishes in republican leadership positions. what's your response to that? >> i tend to think that's kind of alarmism. we haven't really proposed any policy changes or anything like that, at least from the crossroads group. whenever you come about this type of thing, you have to look at it in terms of policy. you have to look at it in terms of style and the rhetoric you're using. and then for a lot of communities, if you're trying to go after the african-american vote, the hispanic vote, or the asian vote, you have to be willing to show up and you have to be willing to do that co
. >> eric cantor is not alone, for sure, jonathan, your old boss, or i guess your boss, karl rove, as how often talked about trying to fix the image and he's angered a lot of republicans, especially far right conservatives by talking about his plans to go against the most extreme in the primary. mark levin, the talk show host, says conservatives are being stabbed in the back. erick erickson, the editor of redstate.com says the efforts will, quote, crush conservatives, destroy the tea...
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we were dramatically outspent by karl rove and big polluters. we had the public on our side. voters wanted leaders who confront the challenge of climate change. we saw attacks on senators in montana and ohio on their energy policies. we saw attacks from mitt romney, heather wilson in new mexico. those attacks proved unsuccessful. to put hard numbers on this -- the money spent by the affiliated crossroad organization only represented seven percent of the money spent on winning races -- just seven percent. contrast that with the record -- 83% of the money we spent was spent on winning races.one great example is in massachusetts. we were touting scout brown -- oftt brown's abysmal record turning around and voting consistently for taxpayer handouts to those industries that are already making your record profits at the pump. pre and post polling from those ads showed that his record dropped among independent a shocking 21%. so i offer that as an anecdote of powerful the ties are in terms of public mind of who they trust in elected office and who they are taking their money from an
we were dramatically outspent by karl rove and big polluters. we had the public on our side. voters wanted leaders who confront the challenge of climate change. we saw attacks on senators in montana and ohio on their energy policies. we saw attacks from mitt romney, heather wilson in new mexico. those attacks proved unsuccessful. to put hard numbers on this -- the money spent by the affiliated crossroad organization only represented seven percent of the money spent on winning races -- just...